The Storytelling with Heart Podcast

How do we tell stories that engage, inspire, and have a lasting impact? How do we turn thoughts and ideas into effective and authentic storytelling? How can we use storytelling to make a difference— in our work, lives, and communities? In this podcast I interview thought leaders and changemakers about the stories that shaped them — and explore how you too can turn your thoughts into leadership. Storytelling with Heart is hosted by Camille DePutter, a storytelling specialist who helps leading professionals create game-changing, award-winning communications.

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Tuesday Dec 05, 2023

Do you ever wish you could wave a magic wand and get other people to change? 
Dr. Rachel Miller did. 
She initially got into medicine to help people, but wound up feeling frustrated by the lack of leadership training and skill development within the healthcare industry. 
One day, from within her bathroom with the shower running, Rachel had a realization: maybe she could be the change she was looking for. 
Today, Dr. Rachel Miller, a distinguished board-certified Obstetrician & Gynecologist, expertly combines her medical expertise with her passion for leadership development. 
As a Certified Executive Coach and author of “How to Succeed as a Healthcare Leader,” Dr. Miller is dedicated to empowering healthcare leaders to drive meaningful change within their organizations and their private practices. She offers transformative guidance to physician executives and front-line leaders through her company, Pocket Bridges. And, she has an award-nominated podcast, Life, Love, and Leadership for Physicians, where she shares her expertise and interviews experts, including myself. 
In this podcast, Rachel and I explore how you can positively channel your frustration into impact. We explore how you can positively influence and impact the people around you, including this nugget of wisdom: start with yourself.
In our discussion, Rachel comments on the American healthcare system, but there’s wide applicability here for anyone who wants to be a better leader or effect change around them.
We explore:
Why “start with yourself” is always good advice when you want to create change – and why understanding *yourself* makes understanding *other people* easier
Why personal development will also help you with professional development (and vice versa)
The problem with “all or nothing” thinking and other common blindspots, plus how to shift your brain to explore more creative possibilities
Why human connection and trust is at the heart of impactful leadership
Tips for building stronger connections and trust in a virtual or hybrid work environment
How thought leadership can help you channel your frustration into something positive and make a difference. (Hint: If you’re frustrated and want to foster change in your business or industry, this is a great place to start.)
^ This part of the interview is my favourite bit of the show, by the way! If you’re frustrated AF right now, tune in around 39:00 and you’ll get right to the part where we talk about how expressing yourself (through things like writing or podcasting) can help you turn your frustration into something productive and meaningful. 
When you’re done listening, check Rachel out at You can also find her  on LinkedIn – – and Instagram as @drrachelmillermd

Wednesday Nov 22, 2023

Do you want to become a more impactful leader, while staying true to your values, your vision, and yourself?
Be sure to check out this interview with Jayson Krause.
Jayson Krause is a leadership strategist, executive coach, award-winning author, speaker, and the founder of Level 52. He works with leaders running billion-dollar businesses from Singapore to Silicon Valley, helping them to develop strong cultures of innovation and meaningful leadership. 
Before his career in leadership and coaching, Jayson won four national championships as a Canadian bobsleigh athlete. Much of what Jayson learned about growth and development as a high-performance athlete shapes the work and methodology of Level 52 today through an award-winning framework he developed called The Science Behind Success™.
In this episode, we unpack ALLLLLL the business and leadership buzzwords, examining topics like: 
 Employee engagement (and why employees are becoming more disengaged even while companies are spending more money than ever on employee engagement.)
Leadership coaching (and why we should use it as preventative medicine rather than a tool reserved for crises and disasters.)
Authenticity (and why leaders need to earn the right to be authentic)
Culture (and why it does matter how brilliant you and your people are if your culture sucks)
Relationships (and why leaders need to actively engineer integrous relationships)
Goal setting (including how to approach it in a way that is more inspiring and engaging
Collaboration (and how to ask questions so you foster collaboration and input, rather than getting shut down)
Empathy (and how to ‘get in the heads’ of your audience so they actually care about what you have to say)
Feedback (and the value of 360 reviews, plus why negative feedback is probably the best, most useful feedback you’ll ever get.)
Plus, the everlasting question…
If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound? ← Yes, Jayson actually provides an answer to this… 😂 And it’s a really valuable message for leaders!
When you’re done listening, be sure to learn more about Jayson and Level52 at

Tuesday Nov 07, 2023

Have ever thought that if you just put your head down and do great work, eventually you’ll be recognized for your talents?
Have you ever felt squeamish about marketing, self-promotion, or talking about yourself?
Do you want to get more recognition, more opportunities, and more influence – but you don’t want to spend more time on social media or just “add to the noise”?
Enter Lisa Bragg. 
Lisa Bragg is an author, speaker and advisor who helps leaders navigate savvy self-promotion that is authentic and gets results. 
She helps high-achievers of all sorts be seen, heard, and share their value with the world. Lisa then takes it a step further to show leaders how to help less visible people on their teams to do the same.
Lisa’s book, Bragging Rights: How to Talk about Your Work Using Purposeful Self-Promotion, launched as a best seller in May 2023. Bragging Rights is based on insights from Lisa’s career as an award-winning journalist, entrepreneur and consultant, as well as an extensive international research study on bragging and self-promotion.
In this episode, we explore how leaders can embrace purposeful self-promotion to make a bigger impact while staying true to themselves. 
Topics we cover:
Why we all need to feel seen and heard, no matter who we are or what we do.
Common myths (like, “if you’re good enough, people will eventually recognize / reward you”) and why these are false.
The difference between purposeful self-promotion and narcissistic megaphone-ing.
Why self promotion does not require social media!
Easy, everyday, non-gross tips for getting more attention and promoting yourself.
The importance of developing your own point of view, and what you want to be known for.
Why you don’t need to keep re-inventing stories or making new content… and why you should re-tell your signature stories again and again
The value of a professional brand – why you should have one, regardless of your role, and how to get started.
Why you DO deserve credit for your work, even in a team situation, and a key phrase you can use to help other people see your value.
How leaders can (and should!) help others advocate for themselves.
Don’t miss this energizing and inspiring episode!
And, when you’re done, check out this FREE tool Lisa offers exclusively for podcast listeners: 
Be sure to find Lisa at, and follow her on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook.

Tuesday Oct 24, 2023

In “Coaching with Cam”, Camille takes a break from interviewing guests to share lessons, tips, tricks, and other communications guidance with listeners. 
In today’s Halloween-themed (but actually timeless) episode, Camille (aka Cam) tackles the scary side of storytelling. 
Cam explores how fear and vulnerability can stop us from telling our best, most impactful stories — but they don’t have to. 
She then walks listeners through some simple methods to move through the fear so you can build stronger connections with your audience, and actually enjoy the process.
This episode is geared towards Halloween but is relevant to any time of the year, offering some timeless principles for embracing fear and expressing yourself with bold authenticity. 

Wednesday Oct 11, 2023

Have you ever wondered whether your personal story could help you professionally? 
Could sharing your own story help you differentiate yourself, stand out, connect better with people, overcome imposter syndrome, or simply grow as a person? 
Yes – all of the above, says  Coach Jon McLernon.
Jon is a nutrition coach who struggled with PTSD, depression, binge-eating, and poor health after a traumatic incident. After recovering and transforming his life, he went on to share his stories—and differentiate himself as a coach. 
Jon says his story became his biggest asset in business.
Since then, he went on to launch Between the Before & After, a podcast that shares inspiring real life stories of remarkable people overcoming significant adversity in their life. 
On his podcast, Jon has interviewed over 100 individuals about their stories, never shying away from the gritty and vulnerable details that make us messy and human.
In this episode, Jon opens up about his own story, how it’s helped him in business and life, and what he’s learned from other people’s stories. 
We explore:
How a traumatic event sent Jon into a deep spiral of shame, binge eating, and depression—and how he turned his life around.
Why forgiveness, self-compassion, and self care were at the heart of his journey (and his coaching practice.)
How sharing his own story helped Jon grow personally AND professionally  — why his story has become his “biggest asset” in business.
How Jon got over imposter syndrome and his fear of not looking like other “typical” fitness professionals.
Why simple “before and after” narratives aren’t always useful, and why it’s worth exploring the “messy middle” of stories.
Why Jon started a podcast instead of hustling on social media, and why he pivoted his podcast in a different direction.
The value of listening to other people’s stories, including those who are very different from you.
Why it’s worth letting go of your professional facade and opening yourself up to real, unscripted conversations. (And how to put your self consciousness aside.)
Tips for both interviewing people and being interviewed. Hint: If you’re guesting on podcasts  or want to “give good interview”, there’s some really useful stuff here. 
Find Jon and Between The Before And After Podcast here:

Tuesday Sep 26, 2023

What does it mean to work (and live) in alignment with your true self?
What do the words “authentic” and “heart centered” look like in practice?
… And what happens if the things you’re doing, saying, or writing about no longer feel like you?
In this episode, I go deep into these concepts with Drima, aka Amir Ahmad Nasr, a multifaceted writer, musician, speaker, and coach. 
Drima is the founder and head coach at Assertive & Co., where he facilitates a values-based method for awakening creators, coaches and experts to their true voice, so they can grow and lead with more purpose, freedom and fulfillment.
Under his given name (Amir Ahmad Nasr), Drima’s writing has been featured and reviewed in over 13 languages including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, The Economist, The Guardian, WIRED, and dozens more telling stories about faith, spirituality, human rights, and human flourishing.
Drima brings a human, heart-centered perspective to all of his work and storytelling. In this interview, I ask him to share his thoughts on concepts like authenticity, conviction, vulnerability, and heart-centered. We explore what these words mean in practice, and how to tell stories that deliver not only better results, but also greater satisfaction, meaning, and fulfillment. 
In this conversation, we explore: 
What does “heart centered” actually mean, and why does it matter?
Implications of AI and why words matter less these days (and what matters more.)
Why you should be wary of “plastic vulnerability” and how you can be genuine and vulnerable, even when you’re following a script.
Heartbreak as a portal into meaningful storytelling, and why your most heartbreaking moments can lead to your most powerful stories. (And how to navigate this without triggering past trauma.)
Why veering away from controversial subjects like politics is in itself a political choice, and why you might want to engage in these kinds of topics. (Or why you should at least be deliberate about your choice.)
What we can learn from musicians, songwriters, writers, actors, and other types of storytellers… including common traps and pitfalls to avoid.
The importance of developing your marketing materials, communications, and product offers from a place of alignment with who you are. (And why you should be ready to adjust them if they are no longer are a good fit for you.)
The importance of growing and evolving your personal brand, especially if it doesn’t feel like “you” anymore. 
If you want to challenge the status quo and work and communicate in a heartfelt way that feels true to you, this episode is a must-listen.
Learn more about Drima and Assertive and Co here:

Tuesday Sep 12, 2023

Want to become a recognized authority in your area of expertise?
Then you’ll definitely want to listen to this episode with Rochelle Moulton.
A leading voice in the independent consulting space, Rochelle Moulton helps soloists build vibrant authority businesses.  
Rochelle earned her consulting stripes by leading introverted brainiacs at two powerhouse consulting firms and turning around the failing consulting arm of a Fortune 500 company. She built three professional firms from scratch—including selling one to Arthur Andersen. 
Rochelle is a champion of independent professionals, aka soloists. She hosts “Soloist Women”, co-hosts “The Business of Authority” podcast, and wrote the book The Authority Code: How To Position, Monetize And Sell Your Expertise.
I am delighted to have Rochelle on the show since I’ve been reading and listening to her stuff for years!
In this episode we dive into what it means to build authority and reputation, along with authenticity and satisfaction. 
Topics we cover include:
How to operate in your “zone of genius” (and what that actually means.)
The importance of vision, and how to develop and refine your vision as a leader and business-owner.
How to stay committed to your vision while also giving yourself room to grow and change.
Why just doing what you’re good at and playing to your strengths isn’t always the path to success (or happiness).
Potential pitfalls of getting too attached to your personal brand and how to avoid them.
The value of publishing your ideas and publicly sharing your work, not just once but again and again.
The importance of choosing projects and initiatives that align with you, your values, and your joy (and how to course correct when they don’t.)
Why authority goes hand-in-hand with authenticity and humanity.
How to stand out in a crowded marketplace.
And so much more. 
And be sure to check out Rochelle Moulton at

Tuesday Aug 29, 2023

Do you have habits you want to change… stuff you want to get better at… self doubt you want to overcome?
In this episode, Karin Nordin shows us what’s possible. 
She provides compassionate, science-based guidance for personal and professional growth, while debunking myths about behavior change along the way.
Karin Nordin is a PhD expert in behavior change and mindset theory. 
After graduating with her doctorate, Karin had a striking realization: The typical self-help and productivity approaches of the personal development industry were shockingly inconsistent with the actual research on change. That inconsistency became the fuel for her business Body Brain Alliance, where she’s on a mission to teach compassion-first change techniques that actually work. 
In this episode, we cover:
Why you shouldn’t stress if you struggle with change (hint: the struggle is universal.)
Why a lot of common “self help” advice is misleading, inadequate, or just plain wrong.
The multi-step process that is essential in order to get better at just about anything
How to get better at something quickly using something called Deep Practice. (Note: the book Karin references here is the Talent Code by Daniel Coyle)
Why you should publish your work before it feels “ready”.
Why consistency is overrated, and what to focus on instead as you aim to build habits or behaviors
Why you should embrace the struggle of doing things you suck. (There’s real neuroscience behind this! Plus, what you can learn from Big Brother and Survivor.)
What you should know if you have ADHD – or other forms of neurodivergence – when it comes to behavior change
The truth about growth mindset. (Hint: It’s widely misunderstood. Karin explains what we need to know if we want to cultivate more of a growth mindset in ourselves.)
A secret trick to help you feel more confident as you pursue goals and challenges.
The #1 thing leaders and coaches should consider before trying to get someone else to change
What the whole “caterpillar and butterfly” metaphor gets wrong, plus a healthy reminder for anyone who is pursuing improvement ← This is my favourite part of the entire interview, don’t miss it!
This is a fantastic episode, full of both practical and compassionate advice. 
And be sure to find Karin at, and on Instagram: karinnordinphd and bodybrainalliance.

Tuesday Jun 27, 2023

In “Coaching with Cam”, Camille takes a break from interviewing guests to share lessons, tips, tricks, and other communications guidance with listeners. 
In today’s episode, Camille (aka Cam) reveals five fundamental communications principles. 
Here’s the big question: are you communicating effectively with your audience? 
Many leaders wrestle with what to say and how to say it. Especially when the stakes are high and you’re communicating big ideas or complex issues. 
You might find that you’re not really sure exactly what to say. How do you define what your key messages are? 
And, even if you do know what you want to express, how do you say it in a way that is clear and genuinely compelling for your audience?
Furthermore, how do you connect with people, and help your audience feel seen and inspired? 
And what if you seem to be saying “all the right things” but still feel a sense of dissonance or dissatisfaction, either from your audience… or yourself? 
If any of these concerns strike a chord with you—or you just want to be a better communicator—be sure to listen to today’s episode. 
Camille explores some of the common traps we can fall into when communicating, and then reviews five principles that are essential for any leader striving for influence and impact. 
Work on improving / adopting any of these principles and you will start to get better results (and more satisfaction) from your communications. 
If you are using AI-type tools to help you write, this lesson is even more important, as it will help you remember the basics even as you use technology to help you generate words. 
At the end of this lesson, Camille also gives you advice on how to begin putting these principles in place. 
If you want to be a better writer or speaker, or a more persuasive and impactful leader, don’t miss this episode!

Tuesday Jun 13, 2023

The path to leadership (including thought leadership) is never a straight line. 
Have you ever wondered what it really takes to build a business — and a reputation — around the thing you’re most passionate about?
Are you curious about what the journey to thought leadership looks like for someone else?
Have you considered writing a book, creating a course or certification, or dreamed of building a mission-driven business or community? 
This episode will give you insight into all of this, through the lens of someone who has done it.
Molly Galbraith is the co-founder of Girls Gone Strong (GGS), the world’s largest platform providing evidence-based health, fitness, nutrition, pregnancy, and menopause education for women and the health and fitness professionals who work with them—including industry-leading certification programs and coaching.
Through her GGS Academy, she has certified thousands of professionals in over 125 countries, helping them become the go-to coach for women in their gyms and communities.
She's also the author of “Strong Women Lift Each Other Up,” a book dedicated to helping women create a better life for themselves and a better world for women and girls through lifting women up.
I’ve been working with Molly and GGS for a number of years. I’ve worked on all of their current certifications including their newly released Menopause Coaching Specialist Certification. And I served as Molly’s storytelling partner in her book Strong Women Lift Each Other Up. 
In this episode, we give listeners a behind-the-scenes look at what it really takes to make a name for yourself as a thought leader, to become a published author of non-fiction, to create courses and certifications, and to build a business around your passion and your values. 
Topics we cover include:
Why collaboration is the best kept secret of avid authors and content creators – and why (and how) you should try it for yourself.
Why vulnerability is an essential ingredient in becoming a thought leader.
How a single blog post kick-started Molly’s journey to becoming a global leader, and her words of wisdom for people who are just getting started.
The conversation that changed the game for Molly’s business and leadership. (Hint: The game-changing question was, “What do we do better than anyone else?”)
What’s involved in creating a certification product (and the kinds of roles you may need to hire or employ to get it done.)
How Molly turned a keynote speech into a bestselling book, and why it was worth all the effort.
How to get clear on your personal and professional values. Molly walks us through a three step process, and shows us how to use those values to make decisions in your life and business.
Why you should expect judgment and criticism as a leader, and how to prepare yourself for it.
Learn more about Molly Galbraith and Girls Gone Strong at and check out the GGS Menopause Coaching Specialist Certification at



As a storytelling specialist, I help high-performing individuals share their unique ideas and insights in a compelling and meaningful way.

With my help, they level-up their leadership, turn their brands into legacies, and make the impact they were born to make.

Can a good story do all that? Sure can.

I’m Camille, and if you’ve got a story, I’ll help you tell it.

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